Joke Of The Day

LOL!! I really can not stop laughing after I see this JOKE.

There are two spammer in a forum, lets name them the 2 Cs. Why I call them spammer? The reason is, Ms. C1 did some shameful things till she is run out of topic to post in the forum, and Mr C2 is a super spammer he will quoted anyone photos with a reply of 'Oh its so cute' and today they really make my day. LUV YOU ALL SO MUCH!!

Ms. C1 post a so so glider photo in the forum.
Mr. C2: xxx, how old is that joey? You got the high Res? Will PM you.
Ms. C1: It's close up pic. And use dslr lah....
Mr. C2: GREAT! I would love to book that cute picture.

LOL!!!!!

First, the photo is consider so lousy and bad skill with a DSLR, I do get those lousy photos like this, which I feel so shameful to post up. What about Ms. C1 study and learning this in her school?? OMG she can be so proud to answer USE DSLR lah!!

Secound, Mr. C2 is just interested to book the cute PICTURE!! If I don't name him as spammer, what better name I can give him!!??

LOL!!!! once again I LOVE YA ALL!!! thanks making my day!!

What Is Consider Supporting A Unethical Pet Shop

1st I would like to clarify myself before I make my statement. The statement below do not contain any personal reason or flaming anyone. Its purely my point of view for ‘ What is consider supporting a unethical pet shop’.

Our world is always round, and everything is in a circular.

The graph above:

ABC Company:
Products:
- Kids who from kidnap
- Affordable GOOD diamond

Toby Pet:
Products:
- Under aged joey
- Pets accessories with good price.

If as the theory we don’t buy live stock from Toby Pet, but their accessories is no harm to buy. Let see Point S1. when S1 increase, which is knowledgeable or pro buying their stuff there. Its actually increasing part of Point P1, which is Toby Pet profit/income. While P1 increase, Profit of Toby Pet and all the TB point will increase too. Which means we are indirectly SUPPORT them to get more profit and sale more under aged joey.

Same to ABC Company, if we know ABC Compnay is using the $ we pay for the diamond, to pay the people who go kidnap the kids, should we continue to buy cheap but GOOD diamond from them?? or we rather support the other good diamond shop?

If Toby Pet are selling things from reputation suggie pro, or promote by well known people, it will misleading that Toby Pet is a 1 stop shop for Suggie. Also providing Toby Pet with proper things, will only make them LOOKS better and knowledgeable, which actually they are not. Innocent party or newbie will believe that their Joey is healthy and that is the right age to bring home.

We have to think not only in LYN, its also people who WALK IN to Toby Pet.

We LYN may know we shouldn’t buy live stock from Toby Pet, but only buying their accessories, it is indirectly we are USING those innocent parties/ newbies/ suffer joey money to exchange our benefit to get the accessories there. Are we too self-fish to taking advantage in this way? We are helping this UNETHICAL pet shop to continue their business!! Same go, we are indirectly pushing more joey to suffer n die, we are pushing more innocent people to spend their money in an UNETHICAL pet shop for nothing!!

Think of this. If one day, this UNETHICAL pet shop selling their underaged, pitiful joey for $400, and selling their accessories at $10 each. Should we go buy all the good offer stuff, and let the innocent parties/newbie to buy the $400 sick joey? Don’t forget the $10 accessories which we holding happily in our hand, it’s brought from the money that sold the sick joey for $400.

Basically we not only supporting an UNETHICAL pet shop, but also we are taking advantage from the sick animals and the innocent parties. Benefit ourselves while we pushing others to the grave yard. Is this the thing we want?? Is this self-fish we are??

It is not about the name of Toby Pet, its all about an unethical pet shop. As Toby Pet is such FAMOUS in selling underaged joey, sick animals, how many of us had seen animal eating themselves in Toby Pet?? why we still continue supporting them??

If location problem, I guess the petshop which crazymouse sale her slurp will be a good shop to support? It will be more conveniences for KL people? Find a good pet shop, help them to promote and bring more good pet shop up to the surface!! Why have to choose the lousiest one??

We always claim that we willing to spend more for a good pet, claim how supportive we are. Put your hand on our heart, ask ourself.. are we?? Why don’t we put ourselves in a responsible/good pet shop shoes and think?? Feeding the live stock need money, how much higher they can sale? How much profit they can get from the animal? If we don’t support them in the accessories, but get CHEAP stuff from UNETHICAL pet shops, do you think we will have better pet shop tomorrow?? In future??

GliderSLURP

Looks like this is a never solve problem till now. There is a doubt about this Sugar Glider mixed, the ingredients as below:

Ingredients:
Pure fruit juice, pureed fruits, oat bran, rolled oats, wheat germ, flaxseed, 4 kinds of cereal, high fiber meal, protein meal, Atlantic kelp meal, apple fiber, carrots, peas, spinach, potato**natural fruit preserves, yogurt, whole eggs, pure chicken meat, vitamin and mineral supplements, calcium.

If you do read and research in internet, you can see there are a few diet introduce in the glider world, example BML, Leadbeater's Mix , HPW & etc. You will found non of the diet with the same ingredients in the above list. So this is a totally own recipe that maker come out her own. How reliable can this mixed is? and how it can be claim that its the best mixed diet in town?

Of cause, its always can see that the GliderSLURP maker say that her gliders hate BML, which is one of the most famous diet in glider world, her glider smell BML like they see ghost, running away for their live :P. But so far I never hear other glider owners mentioned that their glider hate BML diet.

A customer of GliderSLURP sent a sample for a lab test for his glider good shake, and below are the reports came back and this is posted in a forum, hoping the maker to clarify the doubt about the calcium supplement part, but the thread is close by the Mod with an unreasonable excuse.

I am not going to talk about the Cyanide in here, because that will have endless debate.

From the lab reports above, we can see the...

Calcium : Phosphorus ratio are 0.13% : .013% (1:1) & 0.19% : 0.13% (1.4:1)

The recommandation of Calcium : Phosphorus ratio should be 2 : 1.

Why we need to make sure Sugar Glider get the sufficient Calcium and what will occur if calcium deficiency in sugar gliders? Please google for it, its full of info out there, so I wouln'd spend more time to talk about it here.

As we know, we need to supplement our sugar glider with calcium, it is because fruits and insects contain high in phosphorus, this is why we can see in all the mixed / blended diet mentioned above are added Calcium Supplement. The main purpose of feeding these diets are make sure the sugar glider has sufficient calcium intake, secondly will come with protein they needed.

It is stated that there are calcium added in the of GliderSLURP ingredients, and the GliderSLURP maker did advise not to supplement our glider with additional calcium supplement is we feeding the GliderSLURP.

Unfortunately, from the report, we see the GliderSLURP do not even contain enough calcium for its own phosphrous, even if we only feeding GliderSLURP, and do not feed our glider with others fruits or insects which contain high phosphorus, our glider will still drawing their own calcium from their bone. More over it is advise by the maker we can feed 5 - 6 mealworms per day per glider, what will happen to our glider!!??

In the other word, if we do not supplement out sugar glider with calcium supplement, while we feeding fruits and insects with high phosphorus, our glider will suffer in calcium deficincy, if we feed additional the GliderSLURP, it make our glider worst, because it contain surplus of phosphorus.

Mod = Rules

Mod/ Elite =Rules, and these rules can be change according to their personal needs. Thumb up!!

I never know there are such a flexible forum available in town, rules can be always change. It is reasonable to change if old rules are not effective and it change to a better rules that help up the forum. But this Flexible is according to Mod n Elite needs. #1 Forum!!

Before the Elite member put whole lots of pets up for adoption with FEES, it is stated in the first post that the animals up for adoption should be FOC. If owner need a vet bill, the bill have to be attached.

TElite member put up a whole lots of pets for adoption , her closest friend said most of the time she was not stay at home, but her darling house. Guess she is out of space? or run out of money again? Not very sure.. anyway the adoption fees show as below..

'1 pack of organic cat food mixed with solid gold katz and floken'

Yes a token of appreciation is reasonable, but I would like to know the above pets food really just a token? or its a HUGE TOken? Does the Token = buying the pets?

So make sure you updated yourselve before you post anything in the forum :P.

Abuse Power?

This is happened in one of the forum on 4th Sept 2008, when this was happened, it really surprised me. I was sharing info with other forum members in the Sugar Glider V7, and its up to 2500posts, which we need to open a new thread as V8 and close the V7. So I post in V7 ' anyone go open V8 please?' because I know that Crxxxxxxxx_xxx was not infront of her desk, she was outside with someone. So a member suggess I open the Sugar Glider V8. Therefore, I opened one....@ 02.04PM, and I quoted the info from V7 also stated creadits goes to the Crxxxxxxxx_xxx. Fair?



Follow by reserving a few posts for infomations, then I started to copy and paste the info, but half way, this pop up...



I found the thread was deleted...can you tell me why? And who has the authority to do so?

And surprisingly, I saw the below. The Sugar Glider V7 is close by Crxxxxxxse_xxx @ 2.17pm. But aren't her out there, where totally no computer with her?? How can she online? Means someone using her ID to login? Yes someone..



GUESS WHAT!!! The new Sugar Glider V8 is up!!! @ 2.21pm with the same info..

I try to ask what was happening, hope someone will tell me system got problem.. but I was being ignore, ignore because unable to answer me? I am sure you canot answer me while you purposely delete me for your personal reason.



So now, who is playing the power? I did try to ask why this can happened, the answer I got is.. Mod can deleted anything if he/she feel not right, but I would like to know what is NOT RIGHT??

So basically, this forum is a personal playground, and its Mod playground. There are no rules, cause Mod is the rules, their rules are difficult to update, why?? Click here for more...

Dispute?? Authorities will Zip Your Mouth.

Continue with the disappointment with the forum, here another disappointed with the Staff of the forum and also the Sugar GliderSxxxx maker.

The person post up the lab report in the main thread, and he was advice to post in dispute thread. So he posts up one in the dispute thread.

A few 'helpful' or 'blind follower' jump out and start to questions the sender, question the lab, a lot of childish nonsense. I never know they can be so childish until I saw what they post.

I try not to post in the thread, as this group of people is too sensitive, and they never think of, if they strongly believe there was nothing wrong with the Glider mix, why they are worries that I just make a few post? I do not even make a conclusion there is something wrong with the Glider mix though.

Until there was a Staff posting, I am so happy thought finally we can have someone in the middle and who everyone can trust to clarify the doubt.

If you interested to know the details, you can read all the words in 'italian', which copy from the forum. If not you can just read the normal font.

Oct 6 2008, 06:06 AM
Gxxxfxxxx:
*my post is regarding the cyanide part in reference to the multipaged squabble in the SG thread*I wouldn't even take Hxxxx's report as anywhere near to being conclusive. i don't know why you guys even have the gut to even hold it as PROOF that it's poisonous.when no one on this forum so far is able to prove that 0.22ppm of cyanide is dangerous in the first place. from what I see, all you guys are doing is keep holding that 0.22ppm on the test result and assuming it's dangerous.

QUOTE
IntroductionCyanides are both man-made and naturally occurring substances. They are found in a number of foods and plants and are produced by certain bacteria, fungi, and algae. Very small amounts of cyanide, in the form of vitamin B12 (cyanocobalamin), are a necessary part of the human diet.

QUOTERegulationsThe government has made recommendations to limit the exposure of the general public to cyanide in food and the exposure of workers to cyanide in the workplace. Hydrogen cyanide is sometimes used to treat food after it is harvested to prevent pest damage. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) allows levels of cyanide in food ranging from 25 ppm in dried beans, peas, and nuts to 250 ppm in spices.

http://www.eco-usa.net/toxics/cyanide-89.shtml

so please, can you guys tell me what does 0.22ppm here mean?did the lab even say dangerous? or is it Hxxxx just jumping to his own conclusion and the rest just ridiculously buying it?*i understand that we're referring to SGs, my point (in case you guys didn't get it) is whether there's actual proof that it is dangerous for SG in the first place?* I've seen the SG thread and it was ridiculous on how some people were pissed or start showing appalling behavior on their posts when they don't even know what the report is talking about. So unless you're some chemical expert who understand what the report actually meant, please don't jump into conclusion.

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me:
QUOTE(Wxxxx Pxxxxx @ Sep 30 2008, 01:05 AM)Deaths in animals have been reported at exposure levels ranging from 20 ppm for 4.5 hours to 503 ppm for 5 minutes. Heart effects in rats have been reported following exposure at 200 ppm for 12.5 minutes.

animals will known as ANIMALS.

- 20ppm cynide can kill ANIMALS in 4.5hours. we need to know the body weight for the ANIAMALS.

- how much cyanide can Sugar Glider tolerate.

- Lets assume the ANIMALS in this statement is 10kg. ( the ANIMALS maybe more than 10kgs, like lion, dogs and etc).

- Take the local Sugar Glider average body weight, should we say 90g?

- 10,000g (10kgs) - 20ppm

- 90g - 0.18ppm*

- 0.22ppm is it risky to the Sugar Glider its up to your judge.

Low dosage of Cyanide will not kill immediately, but it accumulates inside the body system. Say a Sugar Glider can live for 10 – 15 years, but it may die once the accumulation is at the fatal lever at 5 years. So stop asking if any Sugar Glider was kill up to date.

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Calcium : Phosphorus (Ca : P)Put the Cyanide issue a side, think about the Ca : P ratio 2:1 this is same important to Sugar Glider. Sugar Glider will draw their own calcium from their own bone when there is not enough calcium intakes from their food. Next they will be paralysis and die, its same harmful, again this will not happen in 1 or 2 years.

Hi gxxxfxxxx, sorry the old suggie thread is close, i canot quote it properly. i guess i will repeat here again. cos not everyone read in glider thread. most of Cxxxxxxxxx's customer can accept the cyanide occur is cos by negligent, even it can be like those ppl who speck out for cxxxxxxxxx while cxxxxxxxxx MIA, the sample Hxxxx sent was contaminated. But how to explainthe calcium : phosphoros ratio?, which do the same harm and sugar glider can be kill indirectly from lack of calcium. Which you can refer to her sale thread. it is stated CALCIUM SUPPLEMENT ADDED. FYI, for human. if we eat a jar of apple seeds, we can be kill. compare our body weight and a sugar glider weight. so is it dangerous level. its up to ur judge. and again, forcus the point at the calcium: phosphorus.

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Oct 6 2008, 12:13 PM
gxxxfxxxx:
as i mentioned*my post is regarding the cyanide part in reference to the multipaged squabble in the SG thread* that's all. because as i read the thread before, i noticed a lot of people jumped the gun when not even clear of anything. but i do understand the concern for the Calcium : Phosphorus (Ca : P) ratio. btw is there a renowned SG nutritionist expert that people can really refer to?

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Me:
not sure if m'sia have any, but i don't know any , m'sia pets line is way behind other countries. and SG is still new in here, but i do have a plan to find out the Cal: Ph ratio in SG diet. may i pm u to talk about it? so we may find out more.cos i am sure u can see alot of ppl say they canot trust this n that. of cos, we canot help if ppl don't care their pets, n those who object Hxxxx non willing to dig out some fund to do futher anaylsis. for the animals and newbies good sake. i willing to do that. but i am sure some ppl are very sensitive in this. i really need a middle man in the whole process.

I though of digging own pocket, just ask the Staff to be the middle man, to see the process of BML, and then he bring the things home and post to the lab. All on my cost hope that we can find out the right cal: ph ratio should be. And who ever want to join the process and discussion, or whoever has calcium powder, they can bring theirs, I am willing to compensated them, because I was once feeding the mix, I really would like to know the REAL result.

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Oct 6 2008, 01:57 PM
gxxxfxxxx:
no point PMing me la. not even 10% of being SG expert and barely 1% a nutritionist. i just clever in using Google. haha.of course i played with SG's before la, courtesy of Hxxx and whoever else i come by. tempted to keep them also.

Why he not even willing to listen my suggestion and he reject the offer? He was not willing to help? Or he himself unsure if the outcome will be against his forum mate? If I was him, if I am very sure of my fellow mate, I will take the offer for sure to find out the truth.

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Me:
i don't need a nutritionist though. but someone that can be trust by the newbie..maybe i am abit lebeh.. but i really hope that newbie will not get mislead by the title of mod, if this is the true.

After this post, the Staff went missing, not even keen to reply me.

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Oct 9 2008, 05:01 PM
Cxxxxmxxxx_xxx:
dear all (supporters and detractors) Firstly, apologies for not posting earlier. It is not rare for me to MIA as I once MIA for almost 2 months, and a another time 2 weeks as well. I have a life to live, pets to care and I do not have the luxury of having a PC in front of me EVERYDAY AND EVERYNIGHT span when I have much more important things that would help me build a future. If exams, course work and assignments are not important to build my future, then what is? Of course I left my phone on 24 hours for calls and I appreciated the calls by numerous people who both wanted to know more about this case. I was thinking; what this could really be about, how to respond in that way that would result in the resolution of this 'situation' and what to do now.

with regards to the first issue, I guess i have to concede that there are all types of people in the world and that is what makes the world go round. if and when i have had a problem with something/someone (particularly, if i feel this problem is a serious one), i feel it necessary to take it up with them directly and immediately. Many did, those that have met me and those that have not, all called to ask for an explanation because they worry but not the TS. However, in this situation, the whole objective seems more geared towards discrediting my product and myself than actually concern for ones beloved pets. Well, like i said, there are all sorts of people in the world

I wish to say that i would never intentionally harm or injure your pets. I make my glider food due to a genuine passion for gliders. Also, i do not skimp on ingredients. If the lab report on the tub of food is genuine, then i too am truly confused. Like I told a few people, why would I buy 3 to 4 containers of imported calcium and vitamin supplements at one go? To put them in a showcase and let it collect dust? Why would I spend so much money to do that? I am no cheater or money maker as some people are saying, as whatever money I get from the selling of slurp goes back into making slurp. The ingredients are not cheap and traveling is not something easy as many that knows me have seen me taking taxis, LRTs and busses to get my raw materials. Why would I cause harm and cheat when it cost me alot of sweat and blood? I do this for fun? No way, I do it coz I am passionate with what I do, I even go againts my parents' words to do this. OH yah, this reminds me, someone actually thought my parents would spank me if she called my parents to cry crocodile tears. Invading my privacy, especially my parents by calling at night, to cry about something untrue. Provoke me? If this person had the guts, she would talk to me but noooo.... after crying, straight away hang up. Doesn't even want an explanation.

Anyway, here is my solution/suggestion. I have gotten a few people to give me their unfinished batched of Slurp, as well as whatever that is unsold at the petshops that are stocking my slurp, have already been sent to a senior vet. He will be doing an analysis with a few universities and I will be bringing my batch to a private lab of my choice soon. To be fair, I am willing to include the TS in this exercise too as he can follow me to the lab and I too will bring a few neutral witnesses along. For your info, I had 6 witnesses that went with me to the vet and I will leave it to them if they would want to say their names.This time, lets be thorough and have a complete analysis, protein, carbohydrate etc. Once the results are out, then we'll talk again.

PS: I will not be online for the next few days as I got my life to lead. If any of you have questions, feel free to call me at 012 2xxxxxxx.

Whether she has a luxury life, guess people whoever know her will know. After all these years, now only I know she does not have a computer in front of her. Means either she is lying on me for the passed five years or...??

After this incident, I do see someone cry, they cry in anger, they cry in disappointed and they cry in heart breaking. If she is really a pets lover, can't she feel the worries of her customer? Can't she feel the pain of her customer? Crocodile Tear is all they deserve?

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Oct 9 2008, 05:15 PM
gxxxfxxxx:
ok. Hxx has answered and I see no reason to continue this thread again UNTIL the results are ready.so anyone else who wish to contact her, the number is there. if there's a need you think that needs to be posted here, or that you think the thread deserves a purpose to be open - please PM me.

Thread is close with a unreasonable excuse. Look at the time between the Staff close the thread and the the last post, post by cxxxxxxxxx. Was he in the stand by mood to close the thread? No one know..

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QUOTE(hxxxx@ Oct 31 2008, 03:49 PM)
I will not reply to anyone post other than cxxxxxxxxx, if not this dispute thread will be back to one circle, pointless war, because no one can really speak on her behalf. This thread is all about the Buyer(with doubt) and Seller, so please don't post any unnecessary comment here, thanks.

ps: kp, yes i know you take good care for your glider, you make your own mix, so i have no doubt your glider is healthy. And I also know you sometimes order from cxxxxxxxxxx without supplements.

Some member start to post some personal comment, some member trying to proof their gliders are find even they feeding the glider mixed, but the fact is, they order a non added supplements mixed, which they own self add the supplements. Of cause their gliders are healthy. While others were told that the Glider mixed are calcium added, so everyone do not supplement their glider with calcium, the report show that the mix does not even contain the sufficient calcium to cover its own phosphorus, how about others phosphorus from fruits and mealworms?.

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Nov 7 2008, 08:02 AM
gxxxfxxxx:
you're behaving as if no one else can speak up regarding this matter. is there a problem?so far i see you have no problem who comment so long as they're seemingly "on your side" but i often see your attitude as such appear when you can't counter / defend when people pose you questions or stating facts. I've seen how you and a few others behave at SG thread and it was appalling and i do not wish to see it repeated here. everyone has the right to comment, as long as it contributes to the topic. many of you have been baselessly accusing the 0.22ppm as if it's harmful but when given facts and figures about cyanide content, it's not surprising to see replies like "you not cxxxxmxxxx, you don't come answer" don't bother asking me to search out old posts, you guys spam like crazy and it's not worth my time searching, i know what i seen before. keep up this kind of attitude and i'm going to close this thread again. which was the reason i closed this thread in the first place. heck, i'm tempted to close this thread again, simply because there's no dispute to begin with. one sent it for test (for whatever reasons it was) and results were given, till now no one has been able to interpret the results in expert fashion but many (foolishly) assuming that 0.22ppm is harmful. haha.
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Now, if anyone wants this thread to be opened - SHOW ME PROOF, then it becomes a dispute. PROOF, meaning a detailed report from EXPERT NUTRITIONIST(s) / SG Care Guru (s) regarding the result, explaining in detail how it affects SG and what should the nutritional value be. The document MUST also have the person's name, company, contact number, and other details to PROOF the authenticity and reliability.or else, such claims of SLURPS being TOXIN to SG so far (as seen in SG thread and this thread) is baseless and thus, this is just a matter of product enquiry. END.

and don't PM me unless any of you have the above. I decide to close this thread again in order to avoid having it setting a precedence in future cases of "product enquiry". simply because this is "Trade Zone Helpdesk & Dispute Resolution Corner". there's no TRADE DISPUTE to begin with, it all looks like product enquiry on why the results state as such and whether it was harmful.

This is terrible disappointed post from a Staff, an authorized party, a party should be handle things on fair way. He doesn't even understand how important the calcium and phosphorus are, he is not willing to help to find out. YET he assume he know and just close the thread in this way. The authorized parties are trying to hide and cover each others, abusing their powder to close thread they like.

"on your side" – I don’t understand why he say this, does he know the whole picture? Does he know all these people are Cxxxxmxxxx_xxx customers? Does he know all these people PAY for the mixed? Does he know all these people have the right to ask and looking for an explanation?

your attitude as such appear when you can't counter / defend when people pose you questions or stating facts – does this means, TS need to argue? for more war? So he can close the thread with ‘good’ reason again? Keep quiet means can’t counter / defend?? Defend = more war = Close thread; keep quiet = can’t counter = CLOSE thread. Why doesn’t he just say I not happy with this thread. So I close it?

many (foolishly) assuming that 0.22ppm is harmful. Haha – foolish? as a Staff who NO intention to learn, to find out, to help, BUT to assume others are foolish, I really would like to know who is the naïve foolish here? You as an adult, please TALK with respect, TALK before you do your own study. Don’t make yourself looks SO DAMN FOOLISH in the public!! You may able to zip others mouth, but you yourself make everyone who really has the knowledge look down at you. YES, at least I look down at you!!

You are such a LOSER!! You don’t dare to stand up for your mate in real life, if you strongly believe she is 100% a victim, and she is the one get hurt and others are trying to condemn her, why don’t you take the offer?

If you are not ready for the real fact, mind yourself stand aside, don’t act yourself like a pro, a pro who do not know anything, but abusing power, closing a thread with your childish nonsense excuse. Face the REAL FACT! Because all our GLIDERS ARE A REAL LIFE!!! They are not a CAMERA!! They are not a TOY!!!!

It’s so sad to see such an irresponsible authority and a blind follower, even though he is an adult. I hope you wouldn't find out the truth for your whole life, if not you will end like me with anger and disappointments.

Afterall, where is the explaination for the Ca : P ?? gxxxfxxxx, are you trying to drag it over? This is because you / the maker canot get any excuse to explain the ratio of the Ca : P don't you??

Disappointment – Darkness of Forum

I believe we are not able to live without politics, but I think there is such thing as too much for a forum.

I try to refrain from posting this up openly in the forum as well as refraining from posting it in my own blog. But as each day goes by, I get more and more disappointed that no one cares about this. The worst part of it all is that many in authority who either know nothing or are not willing to know but yet just judge and attempt to cover facts with unreasonable childish excuses.

As they are authorised to do so, threads can be closed as and when it pleases them. Realistically speaking there’s nothing much that a normal ordinary member can do about it.

As I feel like I would like to consistently caution real responsible animal lovers, I have finally decided to post this in my blog.

You must be wondering where all this is leading to. Hold your horses, I am getting there. Everything has to have its own intro.

When I first adopted my gliders, I fed this mixture to them. The thing about me is that I want to be 100% sure as to what my own pets are eating. So, I decided to get a blender in order to be able to blend things for them. After substantial reading and researching on the internet, I decided to make what is called the BML diet, with added fresh fruits.

I got my first container of Rap-Cal from Diyana (KP), and then I started blending. The very first thing I noticed is the mixture I bought had a whole world of difference from the BML I had blended. I was truly disappointed when I saw the difference. That made me keep the mixture aside and not feed it anymore. After the mixture had been untouched for sometime, I brought it out of the freezer to melt it down in order to wash the container out. Imagine my further shock, when I saw the melted mixture.

I try not to be active in the Sugar Glider Thread in that forum, because I cannot stand to see the real facts. Yes, I am selfish, maybe I should have told the others, but I didn’t. I kept telling myself that perhaps I was mistaken. I had hoped that I had simply misjudged her although she has disappointed me on many occasions.

Anyway, this is the report from one of the forumers who spent money to send the mixture to the lab. In fact, he also sent mine - the Smoothie (BML diet) too. I appreciated that someone really cared and was willing to spend on their own pets. With the Suggie-Smoothie lab report, at least now we know the Cal: Ph ratio contain in BML diet. I really would like to thank the person who spent on it.

Suggie-Smoothie ( Original BML Diet + Fresh fruits)

The results from the report really drove me crazy!! I really think I need to re-judge her, I am getting confused. Do I really know her?

I MAYBE.. & I will IF I can..

"I maybe buying this & that for my pets."

"I will buy this & that, for my pets, if I can afford."

= Talk #1, Do #0

Do you feel familiar with these two sentances?? I always see these in forum, especially from those so-called PRO or Pet Lovers. When in a public forum, people like to talk big, lecturing others shouldn't do this, canot do that. Showing how much they love their pets and always hanging " My pets have a better life than me" beside their mouth.

But looks like I never see they post up said OH!! I BOUGHT this and that for my pets or they will NEVER can AFFORD.

When there are alot people around, they will buy ONE pack of good food and say OHH, my pets have good life. But think carefully. Most of them have tonnes of petssssss. ONE pack? Feed who??

I tell you secretly ok. You don't go tell others ya... actually they buy alot lousy food like Hxxbixxxl, which themselve always advise its a junk.

Can you tell me who is this???

This post is posted in a Sugar Glider Thread in a forum. This user register on Dec 08, if he is a new user, looks like he is not very happy with the Mod and Elite member in that forum. But if he is a really new member, he shouldn't have such a big crash with them. Alot ??? pop up in my brain now.....

1st ? - What is this person intention?
2nd ? - What happened within him, Mod and the Elite?
3rd ? - Is this user really mean for what he post?
4th ? - Or this person is send by someone to create more war?
5th ? - If he is a fake user, who send by the Mod or Elite,his intention is to make people though others parties are against them?
6th ? - So that more people will feel sorry and pity them? Or its always like they say: " Others want to pull me down!"
7th ? - Who wanna pull them down?? No one is interested in those title I guess. Because Title = Responsibility.

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update: 01.04PM

Lobos post is still there:

Normally when this type of things happen, the Mod or the Elite member will pop up within 30 minutes? Why they are not here to delate the post yet, just as usual they do? Do you smell fishy?? Any I know the Elite sometime is using the Mod account to help each others out.

Lets wait and see..

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Update: 02.17PM

hmmmm... the post is still there...

A Letter Expressing My Disgust and Disappointment

My Dearest ReXXne,

There is no necessity for you to feel that anyone is against you or poking you in any way whatsoever. But the fact of the matter is that the way you put your pets up for adoption is certainly appalling and worrying. This is especially more so with you imposing such high adoption fees.

If you are truly an animal lover, instead of imposing such high fees, you should ask the potential adopter to donate the amount to independent pet rescuers. They are the ones who truly need the money. Sad to say. I feel that they should do the donation instead of passing to you as I know you will just pocket the money.

However, the question is : Are you truly an animal lover or are you just someone who likes to experiment with animals and want control?

The part that disgusted me that most was when I was told by someone superbly close to you that you are doing it for the simple reason (and this is quoting verbatim): "Because ReXXne needs the money". this was told to me when you 'sold' Dxxxxa on the pretext of adoption.

What amazes me is how you sleep at night? On one hand, you go around preaching how one should care for animals and imposing such high standards on potential adopters. On the other hand, you just callously throw your pets away.

I have known you for many years now and your appalling behaviour in animal care continues to spiral downwards.

You may have certain titles in some forums that decieve people into thinking that you are a real animal lover. Just a little word of caution : If you carry on with what you are doing, people will soon see you for who you really are. Trust me, I know this because I too was once deceived.